The Facts

I'm not overly concerned that James Frey's memoir has made up parts. Maybe I should be. Mary Karr says that you have to be vigilant about your facts when you write a memoir. She says, "Even when you think (your memories) are true, you have to peck and push and nudge yourself...Is that right? Could it have really happened that way?" Frey probably should have added a disclaimer. That wouldn't have bothered me at all. Or just written a novel. It seems kind of rude to get huffy now about a book that brought me pleasure and much needed leisure. I hope Frey can stay strong during this rough patch and avoid his former demons. You can do it James. Just say no.

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Anonymous said…
I am not sure where I stand either. Perhaps he should have called it a novel. A memoir is almost always distorted though and if the retelling is meaningful then, well what does it matter? Did you learn something from reading it? See something differently? I am a strong believer in fiction because I believe it can say things that are more true than a confusing narrative of facts. In a memoir too the facts might be wrong but you can still be telling some kind of real truth about the meaning of your experience.
Anonymous said…
kateg, were you at the Fran Lebowitz talk last night in SF? She said exactly the same thing. "just call it a novel". Writing good fiction is harder than just reporting the facts (she said - I don't know. Have tried neither).
Bob
Anonymous said…
I just picked up the book and will start reading it today. A good read is a good read, and my mother always told me that there is no such thing as bad ink!! With all the recent press and the appearance last night on Larry King perhaps someone will be "laughing all the way to the bank". I have never seen anyone laughing in a bank, so look forward to it immensely. Maybe we should just call it a "book".
Anonymous said…
Lots of memoirs stretch the truth. Don't we always embellish when we tell our stories? I've read a couple by teachers that i definitely don't believe are wholly true. I think they/we often say we did something that we wish we had done, or we report that we said something we wish we had said.
I still think it's a great book.
KC said…
i agree that it's a great book, and i also don't care about the truth-bending. neither does my sister or my friends or the kids in my classes. does ANYbody care?
LH said…
we talked about it and voted in class today and most of the kids didn't care, but many said, "why not just add the disclaimer?" some thought frey should invent a new genre, and call it memnoirvel. i thought that was pretty good.
I'm starting to care about it just because i think if you say it's a memoir, the reading experience is different than if it's a novel. plus, he exploited that girl's death by the train wreck for his story which I thought strayed into the inappropriate zone. i do like this talk tho. and one smart sixer who just moved here from a twin city suburb asked, "how do we know what's true? How can you know?" (I could be distorting her quote.) but i thought those were pretty good questions. i still like the book.
Anonymous said…
Bob: I didn't see Fran this time. I did see her once many many years ago in SF . What I remember most was her talking about putting off writing her book until about a week or so before it was due. Sort of like putting off your homework, except, you know,..worse. Funny woman.

Hey if nothing else you have to hand it to this book if it makes sixers question the subjectivity of truth.
Anonymous said…
According to the article at TheSmokingGun.com he originally tried to have it published as fiction and was turned down 17 times.

He lied and continues to lie every time he asserts that the incidents in this book are true.

That bothers me, but if it doesn't bother anyone else, so be it: you can call it a "novel", "memnovel" or "Fred the Wonder Dog" for that matter. Just don't call it "True."
LH said…
I read that on smokinggun as well, and I was surprised that it was turned down as a novel so many times. It read like a novel, so why couldn't anyone just let it be a novel? Alas.
Anonymous said…
Now I am more on the fence about this book. I have to chuckle though, things sure have turned in the world as I creep towards the half century mark, am I expecting my politicians to be liars and my authors to truth tellers?
LH said…
hey sister woman. if you click on "the meeting" in the next entry, there's a site that has a conversation between two people with different opinions on the frey scene. i won't be reading much this weekend, aside from stories and zines. Written by sixers. Report cards go home this week. The miracle is, everyone got everything done, more or less. yay.
Anonymous said…
Thanks darling sister of mine. I learned something new about the blog, brilliant!! I appreciate all the different opinions expressed, but that slam of his paisley shirt was just wrong. In the words of Dad, "Have you no decency man?".
Anonymous said…
I just heard that today (Sunday 1/15) on NPR's "On The Media" radio show (2:00 pm on KQED Radio where I live in California) they will be discussing the whole Million Little Pieces phenomenon. The show's always good, and not just becuase I happen to know Brooke Gladstone...

Mary
LH said…
thanks for letting me know. just listened to it as i graded fascinating book reviews. how do you know bg? you get around, ms. m.
Anonymous said…
bg is a sister of a very good friend, lg, more commonly known as lisa. lisa and husband jim invited us over for dinner on a sort of couples "blind date" after it turned out we knew people in common, people who said to lisa, "oh you live in san sose, we know some cool people who live in san jose, and you should call them." so she called us. That was >10 years ago, and we have been fast friends ever since. j & l returned to nyc some years ago, forsaking san jose, but we still visit every chance we get. and occasionally we see bg as part of the deal. moral of the story: go ahead, do it. make the call.

mary
LH said…
that's a good moral. those calls are hard for me to make, so i'll remember this tale of yours. i did enjoy her radio show. I had never listened to it before. thanks for the rec.

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